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switch over to this

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and he ended up that season still number

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one and this is 11th here over the hill

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he ends up number one in the league

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most catches most touchdown most yards

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game and then he went into the 12 seat

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did the same thing again he's just

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coming up in the book and his name is

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tony gonzalez there was a big about a

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page and a half article uh on him and

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our work in wall street journal that

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occurred just a little over a year ago

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i'm finding that professional athletes

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but not just professional athletes young

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guys usually guys

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who are taking all these protein

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supplements

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to get muscle mass

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bad deal

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the average age of death of national

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football league players for example

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who have played at least five years the

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average age of deaths is 56 years

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and it's not because they're getting

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banged up and stuff like that like

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they're told they're getting diabetes

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obesity heart disease cancer

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and things like this so there's another

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whole territory that we're going to have

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to pay some attention to them

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a matter of fact i i really think you

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uh micromanaged

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our whole health system

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do we have individual names for all

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these different decisions that we got we

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look for mechanism we look for single

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single causes all this kind you know we

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and you can think for yourself about

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where what's the origin of the one grand

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disease

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we just give it different names we call

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it cancer here we call it heart disease

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they're called i mean in different

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organs and so forth and so on so i i

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that it really has one grand disease and

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they depending on what you get what i

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get and so forth and someone is going to

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depend of course to some extent on

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genetic predisposition among other

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things

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but basically it will do the wrong thing

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the wrong result

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so i have a definition of nutrition is

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different than what i was taught and

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different from the

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nutrition that i taught myself

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to my students in the early years of my

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career we always tend to focus on here's

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what vitamin c does you know here's what

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vitamin e does and so forth and so on

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it this way it involves integrated

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effects with countless food constituents

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what number can we talk about hundreds

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of thousands of different kind of

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chemicals in food

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i don't know your guess is good as mine

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it involves infinitely complex

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mechanisms

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and nutrition when supported of course

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by exercising there's a synergy there

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that's important

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adequate hydration sunshine it's greater

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than the sum of its parts it really is a

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symphony

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going on every one of our three trillion

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cells in our body

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and the body is always trying to create

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in trouble

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the body's always working to the end

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give the right buffet to the body

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at any point in time with all these

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hundreds of thousand different things

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the body can choose

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which amongst all these things will take

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in any nanosecond in time

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to send here there whatever i mean it's

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it's it's we we we have ignored what

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nature can do

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by the science we do

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and we've really gotten off track this

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kind of thing so where does nutrition

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fit in to our society

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get really frustrated because i i any

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day pick up the newspaper listen to

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television something else i mean there's

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another sort of statement that comes up

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is off track it's from my from my

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it just doesn't so then the question

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arises why not

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international and national policy being

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on a variety of expert panels national

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academy and places like that and so i've

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had a chance to see the interface

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between on the one hand

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the development of public information

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derived from scientific research it's a

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bad story

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that's a bad storage big slippage

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between what in fact we can learn in

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science what we have learned besides to

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some extent and the extent to which we

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actually then mismanage all this

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as they say it's fully interested by the

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research funding from the national

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institutes of health

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research was funded by an nih

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supported uh as i say mostly by nih over

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the years but you know nih has 27

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institutes and programs and centers

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got the heart institute cancer institute

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this and that 27 institutes

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do you know there's not one institute

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called institute of nutrition

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yet nutrition is by far and away

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the single most important intervention

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or causal agent for our disease problems

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in our entire spectrum of things they

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don't care to have one institute and

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nutrient to nutraceutical

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i think you get the message

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they want to talk about chemo prevention

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when they're talking about diet

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you find these words all otherwise photo

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you know phytochemicals

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as if the whole thing is a chemical

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a pie or something like this i mean it's

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kind of ridiculous um

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you know two to four percent of the

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money in nci and national heart lung

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percent is given to nutrition-oriented

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don't care i mean that money is actually

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being spent for doing clinical trials

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randomized clinical trials and single

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nutrients that's not nutrition

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mostly focused on trying to understand

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a means they say say it was a tail

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wagging the dog

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this country i'm sure you know this that

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actually trained our students in

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nutrition and there's a reason why

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because medicine is highly reductionist

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focused on one thing at a time that's

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what medicine is all about

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nutrition is not that we won't own this

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we cannot understand nutrition the

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doctors don't get to understand

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nutrition when they're actually come

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so doctors who are held by the public

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physicians held by the public to be the

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counselors so forth of what we should be

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thinking about health they're not

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the very people who are not trained

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exporting our coalition collecting

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information from the industry

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there is not looking out for our

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people who was involved in doing that

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protection my best picture jeez

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it's a bunch of dollar bills really what

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nih funding and all like that i taught a

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class at the cornell just to mention one

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very popular well attended electric

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they went off to medical school and then

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school to talk about it too anyhow the

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said what are you doing said we didn't

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the director did it will not explain

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catalog despite them like taking it to

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the faculty senate around they won't

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explain why it's taken out of the

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just so happens the director is the most

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influential consultant for the dairy

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and all the things i've talked about the

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dairy the product food

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the food that comes from the dairy

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industry has got to be one of the most

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problematic foods that we actually

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kind of information for all kinds of

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to not to tell this information to the

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when in fact it has the most potential

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anything i can think of in medicine

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to create health for the public

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so we have time for some questions

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one thing that we've been asked is could

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the speaker please repeat the questions

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and then answer them since we don't have

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a microphone